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Abyssal Loot Tracker. Home; Tools Trade Tool Refinery Appraisal. Fits ... The Forge Domain Sinq Laison Metropolis Heimatar Lonetrek The Citadel Essence Tash-Murkon Placid . Go! Fits. Market Fits Fleet. Search. Fleet. Market Fits Fleet. Search. Become our patron on ... Material related to EVE-Online is used with limited permission of CCP Games ...Abyssal Loot Tracker. Home; Tools Trade Tool Refinery Appraisal. Fits ... The Forge Domain Sinq Laison Metropolis Heimatar Lonetrek The Citadel Essence Tash-Murkon Placid . Go! Fits. Market Fits Fleet. Search. Fleet. Market Fits Fleet. Search. Become our patron on ... Material related to EVE-Online is used with limited permission of CCP Games ...FITS HERE:Tutorial on how to run the highest end abyssals in a very cheap 200m setup consisting of 2 Retributions and a Logi deacon. These aren't easy at all...T0 to T6 abyss as quick as possible.Get 1 mil FREE Skillpoints on a new character: https://eve.online/aceface_skillpointsSkillplan: https://docs.google.com/d...Abyssal Loot Tracker. Home; Tools Trade Tool Refinery Appraisal. Fits ... The Forge Domain Sinq Laison Metropolis Heimatar Lonetrek The Citadel Essence Tash-Murkon Placid . Go! Fits. Market Fits Fleet. Search. Fleet. Market Fits Fleet. Search. Become our patron on ... Material related to EVE-Online is used with limited permission of CCP Games ...Abyssal Loot Tracker. Home; Tools Trade Tool Refinery Appraisal. Fits ... The Forge Domain Sinq Laison Metropolis Heimatar Lonetrek The Citadel Essence Tash-Murkon Placid . Go! Fits. Market Fits Fleet. Search. Fleet. Market Fits Fleet. Search. Become our patron on ... Material related to EVE-Online is used with limited permission of CCP Games ...Currently we are reviewing/rewriting parts of EVE Workbench (and adding new features for the Abyss Tracker Preview). If you notice something that doesn't work please let us know on our Discord-server. I test out a Sacrilege fit for T3 Firestorm. Went quite smoothly!Get 1 mil FREE Skillpoints on a new character: https://ad.admitad.com/g/bqgptmfpvq9ce7fd0182...Abyssal Loot Tracker. Home; Tools Trade Tool Refinery Appraisal. Fits ... The Forge Domain Sinq Laison Metropolis Heimatar Lonetrek The Citadel Essence Tash-Murkon Placid . Go! Fits. Market Fits Fleet. Search. Fleet. Market Fits Fleet. Search. Become our patron on ... Material related to EVE-Online is used with limited permission of CCP Games ...Then at the bottom left of the page click 'Import & Export' then 'Import from clipboard' to import this fit to EVE Online. Export fit to EVE Workbench ... The Abyss Tracker is a "killboard" for your Abyssal Deadspace runs - you can save your exact loot saved, aggregated and compared with others. Current EVE time: 2023-10-05 20:41:55 ...Yes, soloing a filament as a frigate gives you 3 times the profit as if you did it in a cruiser, but it is significantly harder. Dragos_Highwind (Dragos Highwind) January 14, 2019, 4:06pm 6. Retribution and Worm are the two I typically hear, though my assumptions is many T2 Assault frigs may be able to solo T1-2.Gila Tier 5 Abyssal Deadspace Fit. Gila abyssal deadspace fit used for clearing tier 5 and lower filament sites on EVE Online. This fit setup is used to run all tier 5 abyssal deadspace sites expect dark filaments. You can swap to meta 4 items for a lot of the tech 2 modules and factional items to save on cost for the lower abyssal tier running.Abyssal Loot Tracker. Home; Tools Trade Tool Refinery Appraisal. Fits ... The Forge Domain Sinq Laison Metropolis Heimatar Lonetrek The Citadel Essence Tash-Murkon Placid . Go! Fits. Market Fits Fleet. Search. Fleet. Market Fits Fleet. Search. Become our patron on ... Material related to EVE-Online is used with limited permission of CCP …Abyssal Loot Tracker. Home; Tools Trade Tool Refinery Appraisal. Fits ... The Forge Domain Sinq Laison Metropolis Heimatar Lonetrek The Citadel Essence Tash-Murkon Placid . Go! Fits. Market Fits Fleet. Search. Fleet. Market Fits Fleet. Search. Become our patron on ... Material related to EVE-Online is used with limited permission of CCP Games ...Abyssal Loot Tracker. Home; Tools Trade Tool Refinery Appraisal. Fits ... The Forge Domain Sinq Laison Metropolis Heimatar Lonetrek The Citadel Essence Tash-Murkon Placid . Go! Fits. Market Fits Fleet. Search. Fleet. Market Fits Fleet. Search. Become our patron on ... Material related to EVE-Online is used with limited permission of CCP Games ...Then at the bottom left of the page click 'Import & Export' then 'Import from clipboard' to import this fit to EVE Online. ... The Abyss Tracker is a "killboard" for your Abyssal Deadspace runs - you can save your exact loot saved, aggregated and compared with others. Current EVE time: 2023-10-08 10:09:59 ...Lets quickscope some fools in the Abyss with our Thrashers!Get 1 mil free SP on a new character: https://ad.admitad.com/g/bqgptmfpvq9ce7fd0182a24ae92e5cdbb5d...Abyssal Loot Tracker. Home; Tools Trade Tool Refinery Appraisal. Fits ... The Forge Domain Sinq Laison Metropolis Heimatar Lonetrek The Citadel Essence Tash-Murkon Placid . Go! Fits. Market Fits Fleet. Search. Fleet. Market Fits Fleet. Search. Become our patron on ... Material related to EVE-Online is used with limited permission of CCP Games ...Then at the bottom left of the page click 'Import & Export' then 'Import from clipboard' to import this fit to EVE Online. ... The Abyss Tracker is a "killboard" for your Abyssal Deadspace runs - you can save your exact loot saved, aggregated and compared with others. Current EVE time: 2023-10-11 07:07:43 ...Fits and types. What fit shall I use and what types are popular? Calm filament popularity ... The Abyss Tracker is a "killboard" for your Abyssal Deadspace runs - you can save your exact loot saved, aggregated and compared with others. ... aggregated and compared with others. Current EVE time: 2023-10-10 07:55:39 This is currently version 1.12. ...Surviving the Abyss - Abyssal Deadspace Ship Fittings and Guidance | EVE Online. To help you survive and succeed in your exploration of the Abyss, here's some invaluable information on recommended ships and fittings that will increase the odds in your favor and speed up your access to the new gameplay. Nevyn_Auscent (Nevyn Auscent) …Definitely. But drone boats are easier to manage than other Abyssal ships. I tried to do T1s in a T2 fit Caracal to start off. Got blown up everytime. Switched to T4s with Gila and after a few SISI mishaps mostly got the hang of it. Although it isn't something that'll work for Alphas. They could try a VNI if on a budget.Abyssal Loot Tracker. Home; Tools Trade Tool Refinery Appraisal. Fits ... The Forge Domain Sinq Laison Metropolis Heimatar Lonetrek The Citadel Essence Tash-Murkon Placid . Go! Fits. Market Fits Fleet. Search. Fleet. Market Fits Fleet. Search. Become our patron on ... Material related to EVE-Online is used with limited permission of CCP Games ...Then at the bottom left of the page click 'Import & Export' then 'Import from clipboard' to import this fit to EVE Online. ... The Abyss Tracker is a "killboard" for your Abyssal Deadspace runs - you can save your exact loot saved, aggregated and compared with others. Current EVE time: 2023-10-11 10:16:26 ...Material related to EVE-Online is used with limited permission of CCP Games hf by using official Toolkit. No official affiliation or endorsement by CCP Games hf is stated or implied.Summary. The Worm is one of the most popular pirate frigates, and is roughly comparable to assault frigates, both in DPS and tank. It can only use 2 light drones, but its role bonus makes them as effective as 8. The Worm is effective in PvE (up to Level 3 missions with care, and some lower-tier Abyssal Deadspace pockets) as well as in PvP. It is significantly more costly than Tech 2 frigates ...I test out a Sacrilege fit for T3 Firestorm. Went quite smoothly!Get 1 mil FREE Skillpoints on a new character: https://ad.admitad.com/g/bqgptmfpvq9ce7fd0182...These stack and do wonders for double rep configurations. Once you get comfortable, you can stop using the boosters and just keep them in your ships cargo for those "oh " moments. But until you are at that point, use them. The standard 20% boosters are not very expensive so don't worry about the price, use those.Fit is 50m but the lenses and emergency drugs in cargo are making this look like 100m. I agree with that fit in theory. I remember to have tried the Omen in T1 electricals with a single T2 Rep and Web instead of the Cap Recharger. But that was quite a while ago before the nerf on resistance modules.Small Anti-Explosive Pump II. Small Anti-Kinetic Pump II. Small Remote Repair Augmentor II. 293×714 50.7 KB. Those numbers are with 2 other frigates applying RR to the third. Fluffy_Moe (Fluffy Moe) November 13, 2018, 2:21am 10. WolfeReign: Those numbers are with 2 other frigates applying RR to the third.Fit: Jackdaw, T2-T3 Solo, T4-T6 Duo Abyssal Dark PvE Jackdaw by Lokival TheNub | EVE Workbench. EVE Workbench 1.12.2. Switch website.360mil T4 Abyss zealot fit. Doing some tests, seems promising.Get 1 mil FREE Skillpoints on a new character: https://eve.online/aceface_skillpointsFit used:[...I show a super easy T3 abyss fit for Alpha clones.Get 1 mil free SP on a new character: https://ad.admitad.com/g/bqgptmfpvq9ce7fd0182a24ae92e5cdbb5d11871Fit ...The age of widespread use of electric vehicles is nearly here, with more automakers adding battery-powered cars to their lineups as the years roll by. Lately, there’s been a lot of buzz about solid-state batteries and their implications for...Using a couple of Agitated Exotic Filaments in my Gila Cruiser.The Abyssal T2 sites are pretty quick and easy to do using a standard Gila ship and the loots ...Jun 30, 2018 · Arthur_Aihaken: The best Ishtar fit is a Gila (sad but true). 64% of Abyssal hunters agree: GILA! Until the Gila gets nerfed due to its increased popularity. Or worse, Abyss rats soon will eat drones for breakfast. And I dare say this, Gila is the new Drake. 2 Likes. Support the site. Get your Omega codes here.Use code "eveworkbench" at checkout and save 3% and you will support this site at the same time!A lot of newbros had issues with the Skybreaker room. This Thrasher fit works wonders!Get 1 mil FREE Skillpoints on a new character: https://www.eveonline.co...As the title says. I've played eve for a couple of years now, main income from markets. Been running lvl4s in a rattlesnake for a while now and looking to increase my effectiveness. I've heard that the Machariel is the best for blitzing lvl4 missions but I'm not sure, I like the safety of the distance I get when using the rattlesnake.The Abyss Tracker is a "killboard" for your Abyssal Deadspace runs - you can save your exact loot saved, aggregated and compared with others. Current EVE time: 2023-10-10 16:28:11 This is currently version 1.12.5.What fit shall I use and what types are popular? Agitated filament popularity Agitated survival Most popular Agitated fits View more popular fits The Professionals Who has …The Abyss Tracker is a "killboard" for your Abyssal Deadspace runs - you can save your exact loot saved, aggregated and compared with others. Current EVE time: 2023-10-12 19:18:25 This is currently version 1.12.5.The Abyss Tracker is a "killboard" for your Abyssal Deadspace runs - you can save your exact loot saved, aggregated and compared with others. Current EVE time: 2023-10-11 07:51:28 This is currently version 1.12.5.Abyssal Loot Tracker. Home; Tools Trade Tool Refinery Appraisal. Fits ... The Forge Domain Sinq Laison Metropolis Heimatar Lonetrek The Citadel Essence Tash-Murkon Placid . Go! Fits. Market Fits Fleet. Search. Fleet. Market Fits Fleet. Search. Become our patron on ... Material related to EVE-Online is used with limited permission of CCP Games ...Abyssal Loot Tracker. Home; Tools Trade Tool Refinery Appraisal. Fits ... The Forge Domain Sinq Laison Metropolis Heimatar Lonetrek The Citadel Essence Tash-Murkon Placid . Go! Fits. Market Fits Fleet. Search. Fleet. Market Fits Fleet. Search. Become our patron on ... Material related to EVE-Online is used with limited permission of CCP Games ...Abyssal Loot Tracker. Home; Tools Trade Tool Refinery Appraisal. Fits ... The Forge Domain Sinq Laison Metropolis Heimatar Lonetrek The Citadel Essence Tash-Murkon Placid . Go! Fits. Market Fits Fleet. Search. Fleet. Market Fits Fleet. Search. Become our patron on ... Material related to EVE-Online is used with limited permission of CCP Games ...The Abyss Tracker is a "killboard" for your Abyssal Deadspace runs - you can save your exact loot saved, aggregated and compared with others. Current EVE time: 2023-10-12 08:36:28 This is currently version 1.12.5.Abyssal Loot Tracker. Home; Tools Trade Tool Refinery Appraisal. Fits ... The Forge Domain Sinq Laison Metropolis Heimatar Lonetrek The Citadel Essence Tash-Murkon Placid . Go! Fits. Market Fits Fleet. Search. Fleet. Market Fits Fleet. Search. Become our patron on ... Material related to EVE-Online is used with limited permission of CCP Games ...Summary. The Worm is one of the most popular pirate frigates, and is roughly comparable to assault frigates, both in DPS and tank. It can only use 2 light drones, but its role bonus makes them as effective as 8. The Worm is effective in PvE (up to Level 3 missions with care, and some lower-tier Abyssal Deadspace pockets) as well as in PvP. It is significantly more costly than Tech 2 frigates ...Fit: Breacher, Easy Breacher, Abyssal Starter Fit for T0 by Ruqqus | EVE Workbench. EVE Workbench 1.12.2. Switch website.Then at the bottom left of the page click 'Import & Export' then 'Import from clipboard' to import this fit to EVE Online. Export fit to EVE Workbench ... The Abyss Tracker is a "killboard" for your Abyssal Deadspace runs - you can save your exact loot saved, aggregated and compared with others. Current EVE time: 2023-10-11 07:03:15 ...The Abyss Tracker is a "killboard" for your Abyssal Deadspace runs - you can save your exact loot saved, aggregated and compared with others. Current EVE time: 2023-10-10 08:02:34 This is currently version 1.12.5.Then at the bottom left of the page click 'Import & Export' then 'Import from clipboard' to import this fit to EVE Online. ... The Abyss Tracker is a "killboard" for your Abyssal Deadspace runs - you can save your exact loot saved, aggregated and compared with others. Current EVE time: 2023-10-11 06:03:21 ...The Abyss Tracker is a "killboard" for your Abyssal Deadspace runs - you can save your exact loot saved, aggregated and compared with others. Current EVE time: 2023-10-06 14:26:45 This is currently version 1.12.5.Then at the bottom left of the page click 'Import & Export' then 'Import from clipboard' to import this fit to EVE Online. ... The Abyss Tracker is a "killboard" for your Abyssal Deadspace runs - you can save your exact loot saved, aggregated and compared with others. Current EVE time: 2023-10-09 08:05:03 ...I have stepped up recently, going for T4 Electrical. I got the filaments in Jita at 8mil per filament market price. I have run three consecutive Abyssal sites and only got an average 8mil loot per site in return. 50mil total - 24mil T4 Electrical filament price = 26mil / 3 = 8mil per run….This guide assumes you’ve got some idea of how to run abyssal sites. If you don’t, grab a gila (you can use a less blinged version of this one) and take it to a calm or …The Abyss Tracker is a "killboard" for your Abyssal Deadspace runs - you can save your exact loot saved, aggregated and compared with others. Current EVE time: 2023-10-12 08:36:28 This is currently version 1.12.5. 351m ISK. 367m ISK. Without going into a lecture on how to fit ships, this is honestly all it takes to make something work. There are definitely nuances such as the Gila’s ability to apply damage from further away and the Sac’s extra neut resistance, but those can mostly be ironed out if you know what you’re doing.no. T3 Fierce. Sacriledge for Darks, Ishtar for all others. Only on the Sac, the Ishtar is x-large shield tank. The point here is that when you run T3, you pick up higher tier filaments that sell very well for high prices. I can do tier 4 filaments, but would take me longer and increase the risks of ship loss.Idiotproof T4 Abyss Gila fit. Alpha clones will do just fine in this fit.Get 1 mil free SP on a new character: https://ad.admitad.com/g/bqgptmfpvq9ce7fd0182a...Abyssal Loot Tracker. Home; Tools Trade Tool Refinery Appraisal. Fits ... The Forge Domain Sinq Laison Metropolis Heimatar Lonetrek The Citadel Essence Tash-Murkon Placid . Go! Fits. Market Fits Fleet. Search. Fleet. Market Fits Fleet. Search. Become our patron on ... Material related to EVE-Online is used with limited permission of CCP Games ...Log in To help you survive and succeed in your exploration of the Abyss, here's some invaluable information on recommended ships and fittings that will increase the odds in your favor and speed up your access to the new gameplay. Destroyers for Abyssal Deadspace. Anyone have suggestions or fits to run Abyssal Deadspaces in a destoryer? Me and a buddy have started experimenting for fun but figured we'd see if we can save some ISK learning from other people's mistakes. Thanks! T3Ds do ok, most notably the Jackdaw for it's damage flexibility.Abyssal Loot Tracker. Home; Tools Trade Tool Refinery Appraisal. Fits ... The Forge Domain Sinq Laison Metropolis Heimatar Lonetrek The Citadel Essence Tash-Murkon Placid . Go! Fits. Market Fits Fleet. Search. Fleet. Market Fits Fleet. Search. Become our patron on ... Material related to EVE-Online is used with limited permission of CCP Games ...Fits & Market data. EVE Wreckbench Killboard. Runs; Loot table; Leaderboard; Ships ... The Abyss Tracker is a "killboard" for your Abyssal Deadspace runs - you can save your exact loot saved, aggregated and compared with others. ... aggregated and compared with others. Current EVE time: 2023-10-11 05:05:23 This is currently version 1.12.5 ...Then at the bottom left of the page click 'Import & Export' then 'Import from clipboard' to import this fit to EVE Online. Export fit to EVE Workbench ... The Abyss Tracker is a "killboard" for your Abyssal Deadspace runs - you can save your exact loot saved, aggregated and compared with others. Current EVE time: 2023-10-11 07:16:11 ...Search (through fits, ships and tags) Author Anyone Min price 0 ISK 500K ISK 1M ISK 5M ISK 10M ISK 20M ISK 50M ISK 100M ISK 250M ISK 500M ISK 1B ISK 2.5B ISK 5B ISK 10B ISK 25B ISK 50B ISK 100B ISK 150B ISKThe Abyss Tracker is a "killboard" for your Abyssal Deadspace runs - you can save your exact loot saved, aggregated and compared with others. Current EVE time: 2023-10-11 21:36:45 This is currently version 1.12.5. It’s good but I feel like it’s lacking DPS. The speed is only 567m/s so I won’t be speed tanking so I lose that over the Frigate. I’m fairly amateur at Eve Online so trying to figure out how to get the T3 Destroyer better than a T2 Frigate. NinJonnyP3 (NinJonnyP3) September 17, 2020, 9:12pm 4. im going to lean towards the Trig destroyers.Abyssal Loot Tracker. Home; Tools Trade Tool Refinery Appraisal. Fits ... The Forge Domain Sinq Laison Metropolis Heimatar Lonetrek The Citadel Essence Tash-Murkon Placid . Go! Fits. Market Fits Fleet. Search. Fleet. Market Fits Fleet. Search. Become our patron on ... Material related to EVE-Online is used with limited permission of CCP Games ...no. T3 Fierce. Sacriledge for Darks, Ishtar for all others. Only on the Sac, the Ishtar is x-large shield tank. The point here is that when you run T3, you pick up higher tier filaments that sell very well for high prices. I can do tier 4 filaments, but would take me longer and increase the risks of ship loss.A new Hawk and 3x Fierce Dark Filaments... what could go wrong?The Fit:[Hawk, *Abyssal - Artemis Test 1]Ballistic Control System IIBallistic Control System I...For T3 you can clearly downgrade those expensive mods and don´t need Drugs, but still have to learn how to deal with the different spawns. TorvaldUruz CSM15 • 4 yr. ago. o/. Check out the in game channel "Abyssal Lurkers". There's a few fits saved in the MOTD as well as links to some good resources that'll help.Abyssal Deadspace – also called ‘the Abyss’ – is “an area of isolated space” only accessible through special keys, called Filaments. These filaments open a special area called a ‘pocket’ containing enemies and a great deal of loot. However, there is a time limit on these pockets. When you enter a pocket, you have a maximum of 20 ...Abyssal Loot Tracker. Home; Tools Trade Tool Refinery Appraisal. Fits ... The Forge Domain Sinq Laison Metropolis Heimatar Lonetrek The Citadel Essence Tash-Murkon Placid . Go! Fits. Market Fits Fleet. Search. Fleet. Market Fits Fleet. Search. Become our patron on ... Material related to EVE-Online is used with limited permission of CCP Games ...Then at the bottom left of the page click 'Import & Export' then 'Import from clipboard' to import this fit to EVE Online. Export fit to EVE Workbench ... The Abyss Tracker is a "killboard" for your Abyssal Deadspace runs - you can save your exact loot saved, aggregated and compared with others. Current EVE time: 2023-10-11 07:03:15 ...Search (through fits, ships and tags) Author Anyone Min price 0 ISK 500K ISK 1M ISK 5M ISK 10M ISK 20M ISK 50M ISK 100M ISK 250M ISK 500M ISK 1B ISK 2.5B ISK 5B ISK 10B ISK 25B ISK 50B ISK 100B ISK 150B ISKThen at the bottom left of the page click 'Import & Export' then 'Import from clipboard' to import this fit to EVE Online. Export fit to EVE Workbench ... The Abyss Tracker is a "killboard" for your Abyssal Deadspace runs - you can save your exact loot saved, aggregated and compared with others. Current EVE time: 2023-10-11 09:45:04 ...Search (through fits, ships and tags) Author Anyone Min price 0 ISK 500K ISK 1M ISK 5M ISK 10M ISK 20M ISK 50M ISK 100M ISK 250M ISK 500M ISK 1B ISK 2.5B ISK 5B ISK 10B ISK 25B ISK 50B ISK 100B ISK 150B ISKEven with empty pods and T2 fits, they can do them well enough as long as you select an appropriate ship/ammo to take advantage of the mandatory defense hole of the filament type. T4's will generally need a touch of bling (green damage modules at a minimum) to comfortably clear them, and T5's will need a dedicated pod (+3% toward damage/ROF ...Then at the bottom left of the page click 'Import & Export' then 'Import from clipboard' to import this fit to EVE Online. Export fit to EVE Workbench ... The Abyss Tracker is a "killboard" for your Abyssal Deadspace runs - you can save your exact loot saved, aggregated and compared with others. Current EVE time: 2023-10-12 10:22:21 ...Abyssal Deadspace - also called 'the Abyss' - is "an area of isolated space" only accessible through special keys, called Filaments. These filaments open a special area called a 'pocket' containing enemies and a great deal of loot. However, there is a time limit on these pockets. When you enter a pocket, you have a maximum of 20 ...Then at the bottom left of the page click 'Import & Export' then 'Import from clipboard' to import this fit to EVE Online. ... The Abyss Tracker is a "killboard" for your Abyssal Deadspace runs - you can save your exact loot saved, aggregated and compared with others. Current EVE time: 2023-10-12 03:18:04 ...Abyssal Loot Tracker. Home; Tools Trade Tool Refinery Appraisal. Fits ... The Forge Domain Sinq Laison Metropolis Heimatar Lonetrek The Citadel Essence Tash-Murkon Placid . Go! Fits. Market Fits Fleet. Search. Fleet. Market Fits Fleet. Search. Become our patron on ... Material related to EVE-Online is used with limited permission of CCP Games .... Abyssal Loot Tracker. Home; Tools Trade ToThen at the bottom left of the page click 'Im Gila Fit & Clone For T4/T5 Electrical AbyssalUse This Link & Get 1,000,000 Skill Points (Login/Create):https://www.eveonline.com/signup?invc=d68eec86-b736-4e... Then at the bottom left of the page click 'Import & Export&# Abyssal Loot Tracker. Home; Tools Trade Tool Refinery Appraisal. Fits ... The Forge Domain Sinq Laison Metropolis Heimatar Lonetrek The Citadel Essence Tash-Murkon Placid . Go! Fits. Market Fits Fleet. Search. Fleet. Market Fits Fleet. Search. Become our patron on ... Material related to EVE-Online is used with limited permission of CCP … Jun 26, 2019 · 351m ISK. 367m ISK. Without goi...

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